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			<title><![CDATA[Great reading too XXXIX let's]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Selling gloom and doom when not in power]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 20:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">Last night’s debate also underscored that what sells in the GOP these days is a dark view of America</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">. That has certainly been a hallmark of Trump’s rhetoric, including his “</span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">American carnage” inaugural address</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">, which over the years has only grown </span><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/trump-america-first-speech-analysis-gop/671004/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">more cataclysmic</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">. But he’s not alone. The No. 2 and 3 candidates in the polls, </span><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-super-pac-rails-against-woke-ideology-new-ad-existential-threat-society" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">DeSantis</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"> and Ramaswamy, share Trump’s grim view of the United States, portraying it as under siege from all sides</span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">In an exchange with Pence, who was trying to strike a Reaganesque tone of optimism, Ramaswamy </span><a href="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/08/23/ramaswamy_it_is_not_morning_in_america_it_is_a_dark_moment_and_we_have_to_confront_a_cultural_civil_war.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">said</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">, “Some others like you on this stage may have a ‘It’s morning in America’ speech. It’s not morning in America. We live in a dark moment, and we have to confront the fact that we’re in an internal sort of cold cultural civil war.” According to Ramaswamy, this is a time when “family, faith, patriotism, hard work have all disappeared.”</span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">This outlook has resonance in the GOP. It’s why, </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #ff3333;" class="mycode_color">if one cites positive empirical trends in America</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">—</span><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/01/us/politics/biden-economy-bidenomics.html#:~:text=Government%20data%20released%20Tuesday%20showed,the%20most%20people%20since%202008." target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">improvements in some areas of the economy</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">; a steep drop in </span><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/violent-crime-us-cities-still-pre-pandemic-levels-report-says-rcna95176" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">violent crime</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"> and </span><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/us-murder-rate-decline-crime-statistics/674290/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">murder</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"> so far this year, according to preliminary data (in Trump’s final year in office, </span><a href="https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/murder-homicide-rate" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">the homicide rate increased by nearly 30 percent</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">); a </span><a href="https://data.guttmacher.org/states/trend?state=US&amp;topics=65&amp;dataset=data" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">decades-long drop in the number of abortions</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"> (which increased during the Trump presidency)—</span></span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">the reaction from many on the right is agitation</span>. They have a psychological investment in a dark narrative, the view that we’re in an existential struggle, which helps justify their militancy.</blockquote>
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/gop-debate-trump-polls-desantis-haley-christie/675107/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Trump Is a Party of One</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">Last night’s debate also underscored that what sells in the GOP these days is a dark view of America</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">. That has certainly been a hallmark of Trump’s rhetoric, including his “</span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">American carnage” inaugural address</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">, which over the years has only grown </span><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/trump-america-first-speech-analysis-gop/671004/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">more cataclysmic</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">. But he’s not alone. The No. 2 and 3 candidates in the polls, </span><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-super-pac-rails-against-woke-ideology-new-ad-existential-threat-society" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">DeSantis</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"> and Ramaswamy, share Trump’s grim view of the United States, portraying it as under siege from all sides</span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">In an exchange with Pence, who was trying to strike a Reaganesque tone of optimism, Ramaswamy </span><a href="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/08/23/ramaswamy_it_is_not_morning_in_america_it_is_a_dark_moment_and_we_have_to_confront_a_cultural_civil_war.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">said</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">, “Some others like you on this stage may have a ‘It’s morning in America’ speech. It’s not morning in America. We live in a dark moment, and we have to confront the fact that we’re in an internal sort of cold cultural civil war.” According to Ramaswamy, this is a time when “family, faith, patriotism, hard work have all disappeared.”</span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">This outlook has resonance in the GOP. It’s why, </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #ff3333;" class="mycode_color">if one cites positive empirical trends in America</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">—</span><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/01/us/politics/biden-economy-bidenomics.html#:~:text=Government%20data%20released%20Tuesday%20showed,the%20most%20people%20since%202008." target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">improvements in some areas of the economy</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">; a steep drop in </span><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/violent-crime-us-cities-still-pre-pandemic-levels-report-says-rcna95176" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">violent crime</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"> and </span><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/us-murder-rate-decline-crime-statistics/674290/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">murder</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"> so far this year, according to preliminary data (in Trump’s final year in office, </span><a href="https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/murder-homicide-rate" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">the homicide rate increased by nearly 30 percent</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">); a </span><a href="https://data.guttmacher.org/states/trend?state=US&amp;topics=65&amp;dataset=data" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">decades-long drop in the number of abortions</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"> (which increased during the Trump presidency)—</span></span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">the reaction from many on the right is agitation</span>. They have a psychological investment in a dark narrative, the view that we’re in an existential struggle, which helps justify their militancy.</blockquote>
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/gop-debate-trump-polls-desantis-haley-christie/675107/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Trump Is a Party of One</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Welcome to Texas!]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2022 13:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The Texas Republican party adopted a new platform on Saturday that refers to homosexuality as “abnormal” and “opposes all efforts to validate transgender identity</span>.” The Texas GOP party adopted the 40-page platform at its biennial convention in Houston after passing the party’s new guiding principles, which includes a section titled “Homosexuality and Gender Issues.” The section includes a formal position declaring the state’s GOP party is against giving a special legal status to gay men or women and that they support people who oppose homosexuality based on faith, religion or a belief in “traditional values.” “<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle choice</span>,” the platform document reads. “We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin.”</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3529268-texas-gop-party-adopts-anti-lgbtq-platform-refers-to-being-gay-as-abnormal/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Texas GOP adopts anti-LGBTQ platform, refers to being gay as ‘abnormal’ | The Hill</span></a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The Texas Republican Party adopted a new platform declaring that the 2020 election violated the Constitution and President Biden “was not legitimately elected.”</span> The Texas GOP adopted the 40-page platform at its biennial convention in Houston, which concluded this weekend. “We reject the certified results of the 2020 presidential election, and we hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States,” the platform reads.</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/3529666-texas-gop-adopts-measure-declaring-biden-was-not-legitimately-elected/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Texas GOP approves measure declaring Biden ‘was not legitimately elected’ | The Hill</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The Texas Republican party adopted a new platform on Saturday that refers to homosexuality as “abnormal” and “opposes all efforts to validate transgender identity</span>.” The Texas GOP party adopted the 40-page platform at its biennial convention in Houston after passing the party’s new guiding principles, which includes a section titled “Homosexuality and Gender Issues.” The section includes a formal position declaring the state’s GOP party is against giving a special legal status to gay men or women and that they support people who oppose homosexuality based on faith, religion or a belief in “traditional values.” “<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle choice</span>,” the platform document reads. “We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin.”</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3529268-texas-gop-party-adopts-anti-lgbtq-platform-refers-to-being-gay-as-abnormal/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Texas GOP adopts anti-LGBTQ platform, refers to being gay as ‘abnormal’ | The Hill</span></a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The Texas Republican Party adopted a new platform declaring that the 2020 election violated the Constitution and President Biden “was not legitimately elected.”</span> The Texas GOP adopted the 40-page platform at its biennial convention in Houston, which concluded this weekend. “We reject the certified results of the 2020 presidential election, and we hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States,” the platform reads.</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/3529666-texas-gop-adopts-measure-declaring-biden-was-not-legitimately-elected/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Texas GOP approves measure declaring Biden ‘was not legitimately elected’ | The Hill</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ever more extreme]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2022 15:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">A notorious Hungarian racist who has called Jews “stinking excrement”, referred to Roma as “animals” and used racial epithets to describe Black people, was a featured speaker at a major gathering of US Republicans in Budapest</span>. Zsolt Bayer took the stage at the second day of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) Hungary, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">a convention that also featured speeches from Donald Trump, Fox News host Tucker Carlson, and Trump’s former White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows</span>. The last featured speaker of the conference was Jack Posobiec, a far-right US blogger who has used antisemitic symbols and promoted the fabricated “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory smearing prominent Democrats as pedophiles.</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/21/trump-shares-cpac-hungary-platform-racist-antisemite" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Trump shares CPAC Hungary platform with notorious racist and antisemite | Hungary | The Guardian</span></a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Hungary’s nationalist leader, Viktor Orbán, will be the star speaker at an extraordinary session of America’s Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) to be held in Hungary this week, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">in an effort to cement bonds between the radical right on both sides of the Atlantic under the banner of the “great replacement” ideology</span>. In a speech on Monday, Orbán made explicit reference to the ideology, which claims there is a liberal plot to dilute the white populations of the US and European countries through immigration. Increasingly widespread among US Republicans, the creed was cited by the killer who opened fire on Saturday in a supermarket in a predominantly black area of Buffalo, New York.</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/18/cpac-conference-budapest-hungary-viktor-orban-speaker" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Orbán and US right to bond at Cpac in Hungary over ‘great replacement’ ideology | Viktor Orbán | The Guardian</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">A notorious Hungarian racist who has called Jews “stinking excrement”, referred to Roma as “animals” and used racial epithets to describe Black people, was a featured speaker at a major gathering of US Republicans in Budapest</span>. Zsolt Bayer took the stage at the second day of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) Hungary, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">a convention that also featured speeches from Donald Trump, Fox News host Tucker Carlson, and Trump’s former White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows</span>. The last featured speaker of the conference was Jack Posobiec, a far-right US blogger who has used antisemitic symbols and promoted the fabricated “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory smearing prominent Democrats as pedophiles.</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/21/trump-shares-cpac-hungary-platform-racist-antisemite" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Trump shares CPAC Hungary platform with notorious racist and antisemite | Hungary | The Guardian</span></a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Hungary’s nationalist leader, Viktor Orbán, will be the star speaker at an extraordinary session of America’s Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) to be held in Hungary this week, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">in an effort to cement bonds between the radical right on both sides of the Atlantic under the banner of the “great replacement” ideology</span>. In a speech on Monday, Orbán made explicit reference to the ideology, which claims there is a liberal plot to dilute the white populations of the US and European countries through immigration. Increasingly widespread among US Republicans, the creed was cited by the killer who opened fire on Saturday in a supermarket in a predominantly black area of Buffalo, New York.</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/18/cpac-conference-budapest-hungary-viktor-orban-speaker" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Orbán and US right to bond at Cpac in Hungary over ‘great replacement’ ideology | Viktor Orbán | The Guardian</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Against liberal 'totalitarianism']]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-2928.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2021 02:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Right-wing intellectuals argue that liberalism is a totalitarian belief system that has permeated most institutions like the universities, the media, the mainstream political parties, and culture. Hence they feel they have to conquer state power to combat this and fight liberal totalitarianism on all other fronts as well. Here we start a thread covering stories about what this might mean on the ground. <br />
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Liberalism does extend basic rights to all citizens, no matter their beliefs, sexual orientation, race, gender, stressing inclusiveness and diversity. Arguably, this can be overdone, but the examples of right-wingers combatting this supposed 'totalitarian' belief system show that defending these basic rights is not a woke luxury.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Right-wing intellectuals argue that liberalism is a totalitarian belief system that has permeated most institutions like the universities, the media, the mainstream political parties, and culture. Hence they feel they have to conquer state power to combat this and fight liberal totalitarianism on all other fronts as well. Here we start a thread covering stories about what this might mean on the ground. <br />
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Liberalism does extend basic rights to all citizens, no matter their beliefs, sexual orientation, race, gender, stressing inclusiveness and diversity. Arguably, this can be overdone, but the examples of right-wingers combatting this supposed 'totalitarian' belief system show that defending these basic rights is not a woke luxury.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Scams galore]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-2926.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2021 15:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Former President Trump and his disciples in the GOP are really putting the “con” in modern conservatism these days. According to filings made public last week, Trump raised a whopping &#36;82 million in the first six months of 2021. The total money raised — even if it did include some transfers from old Trump accounts — is “extraordinary for an ex-president who has been booted off social media,” The Washington Post noted. “<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Trump has continued to vigorously solicit donations from supporters, based mostly on false claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election,” the Post added. In Congress, Trump’s success in raising money with lies has led to shameless imitators following his road to the gold</span>...<br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Trump’s grifting game is also being mimicked by powerful, well-funded conservative donor networks</span>. As The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer reported last week, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">those groups are also relying on Trump’s “Big Lie.” They tell donors they need money to uncover voter fraud. And when they fail to find any fraud, these dark-money organizations then tell donors they need more cash for more probes in search of fraud. They never find any and so they ask again. It is a never-ending pitch</span>...<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Meanwhile, small donors keep opening their wallets because they are being primed to do so by constant harangues on right-wing talk shows about "socialism," "cancel culture," and the "stolen" election. The hosts get their cut of the riches from the Trump grift game by creating an angry, paranoid audience sending dollars to fight a purported invasion of younger, more educated, racially diverse people likely to vote for Democrats</span>. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">These right-wing media rants lack facts. But there is no disputing their business model</span>. Entertaining people with scary conspiracies about a stolen election and mocking Democrats jacks up advertising revenue and puts more money in their bank accounts. Now big corporations, apparently fearing they are being left behind, are joining the game.</span></span></span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/566923-juan-williams-trumps-gop-is-a-giant-scam" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Juan Williams: Trump's GOP is a giant scam | TheHill</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Former President Trump and his disciples in the GOP are really putting the “con” in modern conservatism these days. According to filings made public last week, Trump raised a whopping &#36;82 million in the first six months of 2021. The total money raised — even if it did include some transfers from old Trump accounts — is “extraordinary for an ex-president who has been booted off social media,” The Washington Post noted. “<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Trump has continued to vigorously solicit donations from supporters, based mostly on false claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election,” the Post added. In Congress, Trump’s success in raising money with lies has led to shameless imitators following his road to the gold</span>...<br />
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<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Trump’s grifting game is also being mimicked by powerful, well-funded conservative donor networks</span>. As The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer reported last week, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">those groups are also relying on Trump’s “Big Lie.” They tell donors they need money to uncover voter fraud. And when they fail to find any fraud, these dark-money organizations then tell donors they need more cash for more probes in search of fraud. They never find any and so they ask again. It is a never-ending pitch</span>...<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Meanwhile, small donors keep opening their wallets because they are being primed to do so by constant harangues on right-wing talk shows about "socialism," "cancel culture," and the "stolen" election. The hosts get their cut of the riches from the Trump grift game by creating an angry, paranoid audience sending dollars to fight a purported invasion of younger, more educated, racially diverse people likely to vote for Democrats</span>. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">These right-wing media rants lack facts. But there is no disputing their business model</span>. Entertaining people with scary conspiracies about a stolen election and mocking Democrats jacks up advertising revenue and puts more money in their bank accounts. Now big corporations, apparently fearing they are being left behind, are joining the game.</span></span></span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/566923-juan-williams-trumps-gop-is-a-giant-scam" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Juan Williams: Trump's GOP is a giant scam | TheHill</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Obstruction as a strategy]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-2883.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">As the Washington Post's Greg Sargent points out, McConnell has offered up the bare minimum of assistance to give vulnerable Republicans something to point to, to tell voters that they've done a thing and maybe, maybe save his majority. But he's got his poison pill that he knows Democrats will not accept: absolving businesses from any liability for exposing their workers to infection with COVID-19. It's seemed for months that McConnell didn't want a deal and now, well, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">a <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-14/trump-s-grip-on-senate-republicans-slipping-with-stimulus-ploy" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Republican operative</a> confirms it, and says point blank it's about fighting Biden next year</span>.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">A GOP strategist who has been consulting on Senate campaigns told Bloomberg that "Republicans have been carefully laying the groundwork to restrain a Biden administration on federal spending and the budget deficit by talking up concerns about the price tag for another round of virus relief</span>." A number of hard-core Republicans have been using the deficit peacock's argument against saving the nation for months, to be clear. This isn't new—it's what Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and Ron Johnson have been arguing since early summer. But now it's hardened into how they'll deal with a Biden administration starting in January. "The thinking, the strategist said, is that it would be very hard politically to agree on spending trillions more now and then in January suddenly embrace fiscal restraint."</span></span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="https://www.alternet.org/2020/10/mcconnell-has-written-off-trump-its-now-all-about-preemptively-crippling-then-biden-administration/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">McConnell has written off Trump, it's now all about preemptively crippling then Biden administration - Alternet.org</a></span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Making Obama a one-time President as the overriding goal in 2008<br />
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<li>Against fiscal stimulus, bailing out the car manufacturers and railing against the Fed for lose policies during Obama's term, then reversing 180 degrees on these positions when Trump got elected<br />
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<li>Now once more obstruction is their only game trying to make Biden fail even if it takes the economy with them.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">As the Washington Post's Greg Sargent points out, McConnell has offered up the bare minimum of assistance to give vulnerable Republicans something to point to, to tell voters that they've done a thing and maybe, maybe save his majority. But he's got his poison pill that he knows Democrats will not accept: absolving businesses from any liability for exposing their workers to infection with COVID-19. It's seemed for months that McConnell didn't want a deal and now, well, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">a <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-14/trump-s-grip-on-senate-republicans-slipping-with-stimulus-ploy" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Republican operative</a> confirms it, and says point blank it's about fighting Biden next year</span>.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">A GOP strategist who has been consulting on Senate campaigns told Bloomberg that "Republicans have been carefully laying the groundwork to restrain a Biden administration on federal spending and the budget deficit by talking up concerns about the price tag for another round of virus relief</span>." A number of hard-core Republicans have been using the deficit peacock's argument against saving the nation for months, to be clear. This isn't new—it's what Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and Ron Johnson have been arguing since early summer. But now it's hardened into how they'll deal with a Biden administration starting in January. "The thinking, the strategist said, is that it would be very hard politically to agree on spending trillions more now and then in January suddenly embrace fiscal restraint."</span></span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="https://www.alternet.org/2020/10/mcconnell-has-written-off-trump-its-now-all-about-preemptively-crippling-then-biden-administration/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">McConnell has written off Trump, it's now all about preemptively crippling then Biden administration - Alternet.org</a></span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Making Obama a one-time President as the overriding goal in 2008<br />
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<li>Against fiscal stimulus, bailing out the car manufacturers and railing against the Fed for lose policies during Obama's term, then reversing 180 degrees on these positions when Trump got elected<br />
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<li>Now once more obstruction is their only game trying to make Biden fail even if it takes the economy with them.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Becoming an all-encompassing cult]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-2799.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2020 18:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Sen. Lamar Alexander’s decision to oppose witnesses in President Trump’s Senate impeachment trial seems like the nail in the coffin</span>. Without Alexander’s vote, Democrats have <a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/1/30/21116263/lamar-alexander-impeachment-trial-witnesses-vote-senate-trump" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">virtually no shot</a> at winning enough support to call vitally important figures like former White House national security adviser John Bolton to the Senate floor to testify about Trump’s threats to withhold military aid from Ukraine.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Alexander’s <a href="https://twitter.com/SenAlexander/status/1223093582023798784" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">justification for his vote</a> is remarkable</span>. He argues that there is “no need for more evidence to conclude that the president withheld United States aid, at least in part, to pressure Ukraine to investigate the Bidens” because ‘the House managers have proved this with what they call a “mountain of overwhelming evidence.’” <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Not only did Alexander admit that Trump was guilty, but he admitted that what Trump did was wrong — he just didn’t think it warranted Trump’s removal from office</span>.<br />
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“It was inappropriate for the president to ask a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent and to withhold United States aid to encourage that investigation,” he says. “But the Constitution does not give the Senate the power to remove the president from office and ban him from this year’s ballot simply for actions that are inappropriate.” He thinks, in effect, that a president who attempted to interfere with the integrity of the 2020 election should be allowed to compete in that election without any real punishment for his behavior.<br />
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This is an absurd position. It’s an especially absurd position given that Alexander is retiring from the Senate, and thus has nothing to fear from Trump politically. So what is going on? The best explanation I’ve seen comes from Tim Alberta, Politico’s chief political correspondent and a <a href="https://www.amazon.com/American-Carnage-Front-Republican-President-ebook/dp/B07T178MK2" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">deeply sourced reporter among congressional Republicans</a>. He suggests that Alexander was afraid — not of losing his job, but of threats to his future income and social status:<br />
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To put it another way, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">many Republicans exist in a social world where criticizing Donald Trump is an act of cultural treason. Bucking Trump doesn’t merely risk their congressional seat, but also their ability to find future employment and live comfortably in their communities even after retiring. Alberta describes profound fears of Trump’s “cult,” of “harassment of their families, loss of standing in local communities, [and] estranged relationships</span>.”<br />
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I agree with Alberta that, when the stakes are as high as impeachment, this is a form of “weak-ass excuse-making.” And not all Republican officials live in social worlds as Trumpy as the ones described in his thread. But those qualms aside, I think it’s also worth making two additional points about the significance of the phenomenon he’s describing. First, it’s an example of the dangers of what political scientist Lilliana Mason calls “<a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/5/2/17304836/ezra-klein-show-book-recommendations-lilliana-mason-identity-politics" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">mega-identity</a>” in politics: <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Partisanship has come to be so closely linked to other parts of people’s identities, like their religion and racial self-identification, that it has become a kind of master stand-in for cultural belonging</span>.</blockquote>
<a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/31/21116689/trump-impeachment-lamar-alexander-witness-bolton" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Lamar Alexander’s impeachment vote on witnesses shows how our politics is broken - Vox</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Sen. Lamar Alexander’s decision to oppose witnesses in President Trump’s Senate impeachment trial seems like the nail in the coffin</span>. Without Alexander’s vote, Democrats have <a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/1/30/21116263/lamar-alexander-impeachment-trial-witnesses-vote-senate-trump" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">virtually no shot</a> at winning enough support to call vitally important figures like former White House national security adviser John Bolton to the Senate floor to testify about Trump’s threats to withhold military aid from Ukraine.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Alexander’s <a href="https://twitter.com/SenAlexander/status/1223093582023798784" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">justification for his vote</a> is remarkable</span>. He argues that there is “no need for more evidence to conclude that the president withheld United States aid, at least in part, to pressure Ukraine to investigate the Bidens” because ‘the House managers have proved this with what they call a “mountain of overwhelming evidence.’” <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Not only did Alexander admit that Trump was guilty, but he admitted that what Trump did was wrong — he just didn’t think it warranted Trump’s removal from office</span>.<br />
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“It was inappropriate for the president to ask a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent and to withhold United States aid to encourage that investigation,” he says. “But the Constitution does not give the Senate the power to remove the president from office and ban him from this year’s ballot simply for actions that are inappropriate.” He thinks, in effect, that a president who attempted to interfere with the integrity of the 2020 election should be allowed to compete in that election without any real punishment for his behavior.<br />
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This is an absurd position. It’s an especially absurd position given that Alexander is retiring from the Senate, and thus has nothing to fear from Trump politically. So what is going on? The best explanation I’ve seen comes from Tim Alberta, Politico’s chief political correspondent and a <a href="https://www.amazon.com/American-Carnage-Front-Republican-President-ebook/dp/B07T178MK2" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">deeply sourced reporter among congressional Republicans</a>. He suggests that Alexander was afraid — not of losing his job, but of threats to his future income and social status:<br />
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To put it another way, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">many Republicans exist in a social world where criticizing Donald Trump is an act of cultural treason. Bucking Trump doesn’t merely risk their congressional seat, but also their ability to find future employment and live comfortably in their communities even after retiring. Alberta describes profound fears of Trump’s “cult,” of “harassment of their families, loss of standing in local communities, [and] estranged relationships</span>.”<br />
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I agree with Alberta that, when the stakes are as high as impeachment, this is a form of “weak-ass excuse-making.” And not all Republican officials live in social worlds as Trumpy as the ones described in his thread. But those qualms aside, I think it’s also worth making two additional points about the significance of the phenomenon he’s describing. First, it’s an example of the dangers of what political scientist Lilliana Mason calls “<a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/5/2/17304836/ezra-klein-show-book-recommendations-lilliana-mason-identity-politics" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">mega-identity</a>” in politics: <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Partisanship has come to be so closely linked to other parts of people’s identities, like their religion and racial self-identification, that it has become a kind of master stand-in for cultural belonging</span>.</blockquote>
<a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/31/21116689/trump-impeachment-lamar-alexander-witness-bolton" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Lamar Alexander’s impeachment vote on witnesses shows how our politics is broken - Vox</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Don't let facts get in the way..]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-2708.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2019 20:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">M<a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/11/18178797/mo-brooks-cnn-border-wall-trump" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">o Brooks’s CNN interview shows how detached from reality Trump’s GOP has become</a></span></span><br />
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Like the president, Brooks won’t let the facts get in the way of his narrative.<br />
By <a href="https://www.vox.com/authors/aaron-rupar" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Aaron Rupar</a><a href="https://www.twitter.com/atrupar" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">@atrupar</a>  Jan 11, 2019, 3:30pm EST<br />
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Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) is totally supportive of President Donald Trump’s border wall, including the possibility that Trump will declare a national emergency in hopes of building it without congressional approval. But during a CNN interview on Friday, Brooks revealed that his position, <a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/1/8/18174669/trump-speech-immigration-fact-check-border" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">like Trump’s</a>, isn’t rooted in the facts. Over the course of a number of heated exchanges with host John Berman, Brooks flatly denied data and research undercutting claims that are central to the case he and the president are making on behalf of the wall.<br />
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Brooks, echoing <a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/1/8/18174669/trump-speech-immigration-fact-check-border" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">claims Trump made during his factually challenged Oval Office speech</a> on Tuesday night, argued that a wall along the southern border is needed to prevent drugs from entering the country, as well as to prevent crime committed by undocumented immigrants. But host John Berman pushed back — with receipts.<br />
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“Yes, the predominant amount of heroin does come over the southern border, but the vast majority of it comes at ports of entry,” Berman said. “Number two — you said, ‘There are those people who died at the hands of undocumented immigrants.’ Let me put up this chart.” Berman’s producers displayed the following chart, which, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">using data from the libertarian Cato Institute, shows that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than native-born Americans</span>. (<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The Cato study is <a href="https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/607652253/studies-say-illegal-immigration-does-not-increase-violent-crime" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">far from the only one to arrive at this conclusion</a></span>.)<br />
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<img src="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/CdUXd7uX-5y7IqO8oKfxGIqJubk=/0x0:1280x720/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1280x720):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13684495/New_Day_With_Alisyn_Camerota_and_John_Berman___08_34_09_AM.jpg" width="600" height="338" alt="[Image: New_Day_With_Alisyn_Camerota_and_John_Be..._09_AM.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
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“The crime rate among undocumented immigrants is actually less than—” Berman continued. But before he could finish his sentence, Brooks angrily cut him off. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #ff3333;" class="mycode_color">“That’s false. That’s false,” Brooks said. “I have looked at those studies, and you want political propaganda, you go ahead and use it!”</span> That wasn’t the only time during the interview that Brooks flatly rejected data that cuts against the narrative he and Trump are pushing — one that rests on false premises about the impact a border wall would have on stopping drugs from entering the country and preventing crime.</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Later, Berman highlighted another graphic suggesting that the number of unauthorized border crossings has in fact steadily declined over the past decade — a trend at odds with Trump’s insistence that the situation along the southern border constitutes an unprecedented crisis possibly warranting a national emergency declaration</span>.<br />
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<img src="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Lhc5Rxd5H-nqBpP8LnTFjymtzxs=/0x0:1280x720/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1280x720):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13684549/New_Day_With_Alisyn_Camerota_and_John_Berman___08_41_10_AM.jpg" width="600" height="338" alt="[Image: New_Day_With_Alisyn_Camerota_and_John_Be..._10_AM.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
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<span style="color: #ff3333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Once again, however, Brooks was having none of it. </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">“I disagree with that data you have thrown out there,” he said, without specifying what exactly he disagreed with</span></span>. Watch the interview for yourself here:<br />
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Brooks also said he would support Trump if he declares a national emergency in an attempt to build the wall without congressional approval, even though he signed an amicus brief in 2015 that criticized then-President Barack Obama’s use of executive authority.<br />
“This is not a partisan issue,” Brooks wrote back then. “When one branch of the government unconstitutionally usurps the power of another, it affects all Americans, because it threatens the very core of our system of checks and balances that has served our government, and America, so well for so long. If the president can unilaterally ‘change the law’ as he says he can, why, then, did America’s founders create Congress?”<br />
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Pressed by Berman to explain the discrepancy between what he said about Obama and what he’s now saying about Trump, Brooks lamely insisted that “those are different circumstances than we face today,” without citing any specific way in which the situation along the border today is meaningfully different than it was in 2015.<br />
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Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA) interpreted Brooks’s CNN interview as a microcosm of the Republican Party under Trump’s leadership. “This interview with GOP Rep Mo Brooks highlights one reason Democrats crushed Republicans last November,” he <a href="https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1083788396466626561" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">tweeted</a>. “We believe in facts, as do the overwhelming majority of the American people.” But in a sign of how far apart the parties are ideologically these days, Brooks promoted the interview on Twitter as though it reflected positively on him.<br />
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Called out <a href="https://twitter.com/NewDayCNN" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">@NewDayCNN</a>'s for misleading the public. CNN & Democrats may want to trivialize the number of Americans who die because of illegal alien crime, but to me Congress needs to do everything in its power to save American lives & <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BuildTheWall?src=hash" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">#BuildTheWall</a>. <a href="https://t.co/K1Rp0W84jf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE-t3sHJ0bI&feature=youtu.be …</a><br />
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<a href="https://twitter.com/RepMoBrooks/status/1083742733259419648" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">12:09 PM - Jan 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
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But as my colleague Jane Coaston <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/9/18175451/sanders-border-wall-conservative-gop-trump-argument" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">detailed earlier this week</a>, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">the argument Brooks alludes to in his tweet — that a border wall is worth it even if it saves just one American life — is a strangely unconservative one. </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The same logic, for instance, could be used to argue for robust gun restrictions, since those too would save lives. But Brooks rejects those. In <a href="https://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2017/06/mo_brooks_second_amendment.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">a 2017 interview</a>, Brooks even fretted that curtailing the Second Amendment could start the country down the path toward “a totalitarian regime.” </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">“You cannot eliminate the risk,” Brooks said — an observation oddly at odds with the position on the border wall he and Trump share</span>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">M<a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/11/18178797/mo-brooks-cnn-border-wall-trump" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">o Brooks’s CNN interview shows how detached from reality Trump’s GOP has become</a></span></span><br />
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Like the president, Brooks won’t let the facts get in the way of his narrative.<br />
By <a href="https://www.vox.com/authors/aaron-rupar" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Aaron Rupar</a><a href="https://www.twitter.com/atrupar" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">@atrupar</a>  Jan 11, 2019, 3:30pm EST<br />
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Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) is totally supportive of President Donald Trump’s border wall, including the possibility that Trump will declare a national emergency in hopes of building it without congressional approval. But during a CNN interview on Friday, Brooks revealed that his position, <a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/1/8/18174669/trump-speech-immigration-fact-check-border" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">like Trump’s</a>, isn’t rooted in the facts. Over the course of a number of heated exchanges with host John Berman, Brooks flatly denied data and research undercutting claims that are central to the case he and the president are making on behalf of the wall.<br />
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Brooks, echoing <a href="https://www.vox.com/2019/1/8/18174669/trump-speech-immigration-fact-check-border" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">claims Trump made during his factually challenged Oval Office speech</a> on Tuesday night, argued that a wall along the southern border is needed to prevent drugs from entering the country, as well as to prevent crime committed by undocumented immigrants. But host John Berman pushed back — with receipts.<br />
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“Yes, the predominant amount of heroin does come over the southern border, but the vast majority of it comes at ports of entry,” Berman said. “Number two — you said, ‘There are those people who died at the hands of undocumented immigrants.’ Let me put up this chart.” Berman’s producers displayed the following chart, which, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">using data from the libertarian Cato Institute, shows that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than native-born Americans</span>. (<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The Cato study is <a href="https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/607652253/studies-say-illegal-immigration-does-not-increase-violent-crime" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">far from the only one to arrive at this conclusion</a></span>.)<br />
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“The crime rate among undocumented immigrants is actually less than—” Berman continued. But before he could finish his sentence, Brooks angrily cut him off. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #ff3333;" class="mycode_color">“That’s false. That’s false,” Brooks said. “I have looked at those studies, and you want political propaganda, you go ahead and use it!”</span> That wasn’t the only time during the interview that Brooks flatly rejected data that cuts against the narrative he and Trump are pushing — one that rests on false premises about the impact a border wall would have on stopping drugs from entering the country and preventing crime.</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Later, Berman highlighted another graphic suggesting that the number of unauthorized border crossings has in fact steadily declined over the past decade — a trend at odds with Trump’s insistence that the situation along the southern border constitutes an unprecedented crisis possibly warranting a national emergency declaration</span>.<br />
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<img src="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Lhc5Rxd5H-nqBpP8LnTFjymtzxs=/0x0:1280x720/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1280x720):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13684549/New_Day_With_Alisyn_Camerota_and_John_Berman___08_41_10_AM.jpg" width="600" height="338" alt="[Image: New_Day_With_Alisyn_Camerota_and_John_Be..._10_AM.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
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<span style="color: #ff3333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Once again, however, Brooks was having none of it. </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">“I disagree with that data you have thrown out there,” he said, without specifying what exactly he disagreed with</span></span>. Watch the interview for yourself here:<br />
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Brooks also said he would support Trump if he declares a national emergency in an attempt to build the wall without congressional approval, even though he signed an amicus brief in 2015 that criticized then-President Barack Obama’s use of executive authority.<br />
“This is not a partisan issue,” Brooks wrote back then. “When one branch of the government unconstitutionally usurps the power of another, it affects all Americans, because it threatens the very core of our system of checks and balances that has served our government, and America, so well for so long. If the president can unilaterally ‘change the law’ as he says he can, why, then, did America’s founders create Congress?”<br />
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Pressed by Berman to explain the discrepancy between what he said about Obama and what he’s now saying about Trump, Brooks lamely insisted that “those are different circumstances than we face today,” without citing any specific way in which the situation along the border today is meaningfully different than it was in 2015.<br />
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Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA) interpreted Brooks’s CNN interview as a microcosm of the Republican Party under Trump’s leadership. “This interview with GOP Rep Mo Brooks highlights one reason Democrats crushed Republicans last November,” he <a href="https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1083788396466626561" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">tweeted</a>. “We believe in facts, as do the overwhelming majority of the American people.” But in a sign of how far apart the parties are ideologically these days, Brooks promoted the interview on Twitter as though it reflected positively on him.<br />
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Called out <a href="https://twitter.com/NewDayCNN" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">@NewDayCNN</a>'s for misleading the public. CNN & Democrats may want to trivialize the number of Americans who die because of illegal alien crime, but to me Congress needs to do everything in its power to save American lives & <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BuildTheWall?src=hash" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">#BuildTheWall</a>. <a href="https://t.co/K1Rp0W84jf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE-t3sHJ0bI&feature=youtu.be …</a><br />
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<a href="https://twitter.com/RepMoBrooks/status/1083742733259419648" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">12:09 PM - Jan 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
594 people are talking about this<br />
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But as my colleague Jane Coaston <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/9/18175451/sanders-border-wall-conservative-gop-trump-argument" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">detailed earlier this week</a>, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">the argument Brooks alludes to in his tweet — that a border wall is worth it even if it saves just one American life — is a strangely unconservative one. </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The same logic, for instance, could be used to argue for robust gun restrictions, since those too would save lives. But Brooks rejects those. In <a href="https://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2017/06/mo_brooks_second_amendment.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">a 2017 interview</a>, Brooks even fretted that curtailing the Second Amendment could start the country down the path toward “a totalitarian regime.” </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">“You cannot eliminate the risk,” Brooks said — an observation oddly at odds with the position on the border wall he and Trump share</span>.]]></content:encoded>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">In the wake of a midterm election where the Republicans lost 40 House seats, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Republicans were willing to call perfectly legitimate election results into question simply because they didn’t like the outcome</span>. President Trump spread wild conspiracy theories about “<a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061962869376540672" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">forged</a>” ballots in the Florida Senate race and of <a href="https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/transcript-trump-daily-caller-interview/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">undocumented immigrants voting en masse for Democrats</a> in California House contests. We heard similar sentiments from establishment figures like <a href="https://twitter.com/jslovegrove/status/1068543027097014272" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Lindsey Graham</a>, <a href="https://itk.thehill.com/homenews/house/418880-ryan-casts-doubt-on-bizarre-california-election-results" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Paul Ryan</a>, and <a href="http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/marco-rubio-opposes-recount-in-florida-senate-race.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Marco Rubio</a>.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Some state Republicans have even decided to nullify the results of this year’s elections</span>. Last Friday, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker signed a bill that <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/6/18127332/wisconsin-state-republican-power-grab-democracy" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">seizes key powers</a> from <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/6/18127332/wisconsin-state-republican-power-grab-democracy" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Democratic Gov.-elect Tony Evers</a>, who defeated Walker in November. Michigan Republicans are <a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/protesters-michigan-capitol-gop-power-grab_us_5c115993e4b084b082ff9873" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">currently weighing</a> a similar bill, and both are following in the footsteps of <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/5/18125544/north-carolina-power-grab-wisconsin-michigan-lame-duck" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">North Carolina Republicans</a>, who passed a power-stripping bill after a Democratic victory in the 2016 governor’s race.<br />
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These acts go well beyond the normal democratic give and take, where parties battle over the rules of elections at the margins. They violate basic democratic principles, revealing the modern GOP to be a threat to the American political system itself..</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/17/18092210/republican-gop-trump-2020-democracy-threat" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">The Republican Party versus democracy - Vox</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">In the wake of a midterm election where the Republicans lost 40 House seats, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Republicans were willing to call perfectly legitimate election results into question simply because they didn’t like the outcome</span>. President Trump spread wild conspiracy theories about “<a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061962869376540672" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">forged</a>” ballots in the Florida Senate race and of <a href="https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/transcript-trump-daily-caller-interview/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">undocumented immigrants voting en masse for Democrats</a> in California House contests. We heard similar sentiments from establishment figures like <a href="https://twitter.com/jslovegrove/status/1068543027097014272" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Lindsey Graham</a>, <a href="https://itk.thehill.com/homenews/house/418880-ryan-casts-doubt-on-bizarre-california-election-results" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Paul Ryan</a>, and <a href="http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/marco-rubio-opposes-recount-in-florida-senate-race.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Marco Rubio</a>.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Some state Republicans have even decided to nullify the results of this year’s elections</span>. Last Friday, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker signed a bill that <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/6/18127332/wisconsin-state-republican-power-grab-democracy" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">seizes key powers</a> from <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/6/18127332/wisconsin-state-republican-power-grab-democracy" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Democratic Gov.-elect Tony Evers</a>, who defeated Walker in November. Michigan Republicans are <a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/protesters-michigan-capitol-gop-power-grab_us_5c115993e4b084b082ff9873" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">currently weighing</a> a similar bill, and both are following in the footsteps of <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/5/18125544/north-carolina-power-grab-wisconsin-michigan-lame-duck" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">North Carolina Republicans</a>, who passed a power-stripping bill after a Democratic victory in the 2016 governor’s race.<br />
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These acts go well beyond the normal democratic give and take, where parties battle over the rules of elections at the margins. They violate basic democratic principles, revealing the modern GOP to be a threat to the American political system itself..</span></span></blockquote>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">A Republican candidate for Congress in California is openly running as a Holocaust denier, calling it a "complete fabrication"</span> in an interview with <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/06/us/politics/john-fitzgerald-holocaust-denial.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">The New York Times</a> published Friday. </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">John Fitzgerald secured one of the top two spots in California's "jungle" primary system last month, where the top two vote-getters regardless of party affiliation advance to the general election. </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Fitzgerald is slated to face off against incumbent Democratic Rep. </span></span><a href="http://thehill.com/people/mark-desaulnier" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Mark DeSaulnier</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"> in November in the reliably blue district near San Francisco. </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Fitzgerald included calls on his campaign </span></span><a href="http://johnfitzgeraldforcongress.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">website</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"> for people to note “Jewish supremacism” and said last week on a radio show hosted by an anti-Semitic commentator that “everything we’ve been told about the Holocaust is a lie,” according to The Times. </span></span>The candidate told The Times this week that the Holocaust was a “complete fabrication” and<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> placed blame for the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the Israeli government</span>.</blockquote>
<a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/395913-california-gop-congressional-candidate-runs-as-open-holocaust-denier" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">California GOP congressional candidate runs as open Holocaust denier | TheHill</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">A Republican candidate for Congress in California is openly running as a Holocaust denier, calling it a "complete fabrication"</span> in an interview with <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/06/us/politics/john-fitzgerald-holocaust-denial.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">The New York Times</a> published Friday. </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">John Fitzgerald secured one of the top two spots in California's "jungle" primary system last month, where the top two vote-getters regardless of party affiliation advance to the general election. </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Fitzgerald is slated to face off against incumbent Democratic Rep. </span></span><a href="http://thehill.com/people/mark-desaulnier" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Mark DeSaulnier</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"> in November in the reliably blue district near San Francisco. </span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Fitzgerald included calls on his campaign </span></span><a href="http://johnfitzgeraldforcongress.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">website</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"> for people to note “Jewish supremacism” and said last week on a radio show hosted by an anti-Semitic commentator that “everything we’ve been told about the Holocaust is a lie,” according to The Times. </span></span>The candidate told The Times this week that the Holocaust was a “complete fabrication” and<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> placed blame for the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the Israeli government</span>.</blockquote>
<a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/395913-california-gop-congressional-candidate-runs-as-open-holocaust-denier" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">California GOP congressional candidate runs as open Holocaust denier | TheHill</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Very nasty to survivors of mass shootings]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-2651.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2018 02:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[There are scores of Conservatives who have smeared the Parkland mass shooting survivors:<ul class="mycode_list"><li><a href="https://www.alternet.org/right-wing/why-right-cant-resist-sliming-parklands-teenage-victims" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">This article explains exactly why</a>; recast them as nasty liberals and they can be summarily dismissed<br />
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<li><a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/147673/smearing-parkland-students-symptom-rights-ideological-exhaustion" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">This article shows a host of examples</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">“</span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">I think conservatives view themselves as having little option but to try to take on these kids</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">," said Matt Gertz of Media Matters, who has written extensively about </span><a href="https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/03/27/right-wings-conspiracy-theory-network-now-going-after-high-school-kids/219752" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">the attacks on the Parkland survivors by right-wing media</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">. "</span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">They know these students are incredibly good on television. They’re good messengers for the gun violence prevention movement and they’re getting a lot of attention</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">."</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #ff3333;" class="mycode_color">“When you see people fighting in a debate, most people don’t really care about the content of the message," explained Dan Kahan, a Yale law professor and <a href="https://www.culturalcognition.net/kahan/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">head of the Cultural Cognition Project</a>. "They’re using the identity of the fighters to figure out whose side they should be on.”</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"> </span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">Most people determine their opinions, Kahan continued, based not on cold analysis of the facts, but on their "affinity group." <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">If people like you are for guns, then you are for guns</span>. More important, if people that you consider weird, different or bad — as Fox News viewers have been coached to believe liberals are — have a pronounced opinion, that inclines you to take the opposite view.</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">That's one reason that the debate over gun control seems to have calcified, even though the majority of Americans, including most conservatives, </span><a href="https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/oct/03/chris-abele/do-90-americans-support-background-checks-all-gun-/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">support policy ideas like universal background checks</span></a></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">. But advocates for gun control are framed as by conservative media as condescending, snooty nanny-state liberals, and all discussion of policy falls apart in a culture-war panic where guns are treated as symbolic totems, rather than products that can be subject to common-sense safety regulations.<br />
</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #ff3333;" class="mycode_color">Conservative pundits have had this routine down cold for decades: Tell their followers that the only people who want gun control are liberals, and the audience will reject the message of gun safety even if, under more neutral circumstances, they might agree with the policy ideas</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">But the Parkland students seem to have disrupted that strategy</span>..</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://www.alternet.org/right-wing/why-right-cant-resist-sliming-parklands-teenage-victims" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Why the Right Can't Resist Sliming Parkland's Teenage Victims | Alternet</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[There are scores of Conservatives who have smeared the Parkland mass shooting survivors:<ul class="mycode_list"><li><a href="https://www.alternet.org/right-wing/why-right-cant-resist-sliming-parklands-teenage-victims" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">This article explains exactly why</a>; recast them as nasty liberals and they can be summarily dismissed<br />
</li>
<li><a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/147673/smearing-parkland-students-symptom-rights-ideological-exhaustion" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">This article shows a host of examples</a><br />
</li>
</ul>
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">“</span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">I think conservatives view themselves as having little option but to try to take on these kids</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">," said Matt Gertz of Media Matters, who has written extensively about </span><a href="https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/03/27/right-wings-conspiracy-theory-network-now-going-after-high-school-kids/219752" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">the attacks on the Parkland survivors by right-wing media</span></a><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">. "</span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">They know these students are incredibly good on television. They’re good messengers for the gun violence prevention movement and they’re getting a lot of attention</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">."</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #ff3333;" class="mycode_color">“When you see people fighting in a debate, most people don’t really care about the content of the message," explained Dan Kahan, a Yale law professor and <a href="https://www.culturalcognition.net/kahan/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">head of the Cultural Cognition Project</a>. "They’re using the identity of the fighters to figure out whose side they should be on.”</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"> </span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">Most people determine their opinions, Kahan continued, based not on cold analysis of the facts, but on their "affinity group." <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">If people like you are for guns, then you are for guns</span>. More important, if people that you consider weird, different or bad — as Fox News viewers have been coached to believe liberals are — have a pronounced opinion, that inclines you to take the opposite view.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">That's one reason that the debate over gun control seems to have calcified, even though the majority of Americans, including most conservatives, </span><a href="https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/oct/03/chris-abele/do-90-americans-support-background-checks-all-gun-/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">support policy ideas like universal background checks</span></a></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">. But advocates for gun control are framed as by conservative media as condescending, snooty nanny-state liberals, and all discussion of policy falls apart in a culture-war panic where guns are treated as symbolic totems, rather than products that can be subject to common-sense safety regulations.<br />
</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #ff3333;" class="mycode_color">Conservative pundits have had this routine down cold for decades: Tell their followers that the only people who want gun control are liberals, and the audience will reject the message of gun safety even if, under more neutral circumstances, they might agree with the policy ideas</span></span><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">But the Parkland students seem to have disrupted that strategy</span>..</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="https://www.alternet.org/right-wing/why-right-cant-resist-sliming-parklands-teenage-victims" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Why the Right Can't Resist Sliming Parkland's Teenage Victims | Alternet</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The hypocritical party]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-2642.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2018 13:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Yesterday, <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/dozens-of-people-recount-pattern-of-sexual-misconduct-by-las-vegas-mogul-steve-wynn-1516985953" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">the Wall Street Journal reported</a> that casino mogul Steve Wynn, the Finance Chairman of the Republican National Committee, had engaged in serial sexual harassment and assault. The report was based on dozens of interviews in which people described how Wynn engaged in a “decades-long pattern of sexual misconduct” including “pressuring employees to perform sex acts.”<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">For 24 hours, the Republican Party said nothing. The silence was particularly remarkable in light of the GOP’s reaction to reports in October that Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulted numerous women. The same day the first report was publish, the Republican Party demanded the Democratic Party and all Democratic officials <a href="https://thinkprogress.org/wynn-trump-weinstein-gop-4a79abc68b27/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">return money from Weinstein</a></span>, who was a major donor to Democrats.</span></span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="https://thinkprogress.org/gop-statement-steve-wynn-161b16d5e36a/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">The GOP finally released a statement on Steve Wynn — and it’s pathetic – ThinkProgress</a></span><br />
<br />
And here is that statement they finally put out:<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Today I accepted Steve Wynn’s resignation as Republican National Committee finance chair.</blockquote>
<br />
No mention off:'<ul class="mycode_list"><li>The reason of his dismissal<br />
</li>
<li>Women, the accusations<br />
</li>
<li>The money (&#36;2.5M) he donated to the party and whether they are going to return that.<br />
</li>
</ul>
Also keep in mind:<ul class="mycode_list"><li>All the accusations they threw at liberals, liberal media and liberal Hollywood<br />
</li>
<li>The silence about the rot in their own camp (Fox news, Trump, etc.)<br />
</li>
<li>The fact that invariably it's the liberal media who discover this stuff<br />
</li>
</ul>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Yesterday, <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/dozens-of-people-recount-pattern-of-sexual-misconduct-by-las-vegas-mogul-steve-wynn-1516985953" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">the Wall Street Journal reported</a> that casino mogul Steve Wynn, the Finance Chairman of the Republican National Committee, had engaged in serial sexual harassment and assault. The report was based on dozens of interviews in which people described how Wynn engaged in a “decades-long pattern of sexual misconduct” including “pressuring employees to perform sex acts.”<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">For 24 hours, the Republican Party said nothing. The silence was particularly remarkable in light of the GOP’s reaction to reports in October that Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulted numerous women. The same day the first report was publish, the Republican Party demanded the Democratic Party and all Democratic officials <a href="https://thinkprogress.org/wynn-trump-weinstein-gop-4a79abc68b27/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">return money from Weinstein</a></span>, who was a major donor to Democrats.</span></span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="https://thinkprogress.org/gop-statement-steve-wynn-161b16d5e36a/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">The GOP finally released a statement on Steve Wynn — and it’s pathetic – ThinkProgress</a></span><br />
<br />
And here is that statement they finally put out:<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Today I accepted Steve Wynn’s resignation as Republican National Committee finance chair.</blockquote>
<br />
No mention off:'<ul class="mycode_list"><li>The reason of his dismissal<br />
</li>
<li>Women, the accusations<br />
</li>
<li>The money (&#36;2.5M) he donated to the party and whether they are going to return that.<br />
</li>
</ul>
Also keep in mind:<ul class="mycode_list"><li>All the accusations they threw at liberals, liberal media and liberal Hollywood<br />
</li>
<li>The silence about the rot in their own camp (Fox news, Trump, etc.)<br />
</li>
<li>The fact that invariably it's the liberal media who discover this stuff<br />
</li>
</ul>
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			<title><![CDATA[Special mention: Paul Ryan]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-2635.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2018 19:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Paul Ryan’s absolute greatest passion in life, the thing that drives him and underlies all of his work in public office, is destroying government programs for poor and low-income people</span>. This was behind his 2005 push to <a href="https://www.cbpp.org/research/the-ryan-sununu-social-security-plan" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">privatize Social Security</a>; it’s behind the budgets he released every single year from <a href="https://paulryan.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=201669" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">2008</a> to <a href="http://www.crfb.org/blogs/overview-ryan-fy-2015-budget" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">2014</a>, which dramatically slashed everything from Medicare to Medicaid to food stamps; it’s behind <a href="https://www.vox.com/cards/paul-ryan-poverty/what-is-paul-ryans-opportunity-grant-program" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">his “poverty plan”</a> that promised to block-grant food stamps and Medicaid and thus eliminate the federal guarantee that the poor won’t die from starvation or lack of medical care; it’s behind his proposal to <a href="https://www.vox.com/2016/6/9/11885526/paul-ryan-poverty-plan" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">take money away from poor disabled people</a> and slap ineffective and vindictive work requirements on every program in sight.<br />
<br />
Paul Ryan is a guy who, by his own recollection, has been dreaming of taking health care away from poor people since he was <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/17/14960358/paul-ryan-medicaid-keg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">“drinking out of kegs,”</a> and who <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/young-wonky-and-proud-of-it/article/3599" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">makes his interns read Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged</a>, an extended argument for the moral precept that poor people are stupid and lazy and do not deserve help from anybody. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This person, on Friday, condemned Democrats for … not wanting to give health care to poor and middle-class children</span>.<br />
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</span></span>Let me be very, very clear. Paul Ryan is the speaker of the US House of Representatives. He has been speaker since October 29, 2015. That’s six months after the last time Congress funded the Children’s Health Insurance Program. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ryan has known, for his entire time as speaker, that funding for CHIP would expire on September 30, 2017</span>. <br />
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He had ample opportunities to address that. He could’ve reached out to President Obama and offered to extend it for several more years. He could have agreed to make it an entitlement, like Medicaid, whose funding does not have to be continually reauthorized. Obama, I guarantee you, would have leaped at the opportunity to permanently enshrine and fund a vital program that <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/9/16860802/chip-funding-expired-congress" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">gives health care to 9 million poor and middle-class kids</a>.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ryan, if he were so passionate about CHIP, could have made its renewal a priority in 2017, under unified Republican control of government. He could have introduced a simple bill funding it for a few more years, or many more years, and brought it to a vote in the House</span>. Democrats would have helped it easily evade a filibuster in the Senate.</blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/19/16909460/paul-ryan-childrens-health-insurance-program-chip-shutdown-cynical" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Paul Ryan is lying to you about the Children’s Health Insurance Program - Vox</a></span><br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Paul Ryan’s absolute greatest passion in life, the thing that drives him and underlies all of his work in public office, is destroying government programs for poor and low-income people</span>. This was behind his 2005 push to <a href="https://www.cbpp.org/research/the-ryan-sununu-social-security-plan" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">privatize Social Security</a>; it’s behind the budgets he released every single year from <a href="https://paulryan.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=201669" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">2008</a> to <a href="http://www.crfb.org/blogs/overview-ryan-fy-2015-budget" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">2014</a>, which dramatically slashed everything from Medicare to Medicaid to food stamps; it’s behind <a href="https://www.vox.com/cards/paul-ryan-poverty/what-is-paul-ryans-opportunity-grant-program" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">his “poverty plan”</a> that promised to block-grant food stamps and Medicaid and thus eliminate the federal guarantee that the poor won’t die from starvation or lack of medical care; it’s behind his proposal to <a href="https://www.vox.com/2016/6/9/11885526/paul-ryan-poverty-plan" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">take money away from poor disabled people</a> and slap ineffective and vindictive work requirements on every program in sight.<br />
<br />
Paul Ryan is a guy who, by his own recollection, has been dreaming of taking health care away from poor people since he was <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/17/14960358/paul-ryan-medicaid-keg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">“drinking out of kegs,”</a> and who <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/young-wonky-and-proud-of-it/article/3599" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">makes his interns read Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged</a>, an extended argument for the moral precept that poor people are stupid and lazy and do not deserve help from anybody. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This person, on Friday, condemned Democrats for … not wanting to give health care to poor and middle-class children</span>.<br />
<br />
</span></span>Let me be very, very clear. Paul Ryan is the speaker of the US House of Representatives. He has been speaker since October 29, 2015. That’s six months after the last time Congress funded the Children’s Health Insurance Program. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ryan has known, for his entire time as speaker, that funding for CHIP would expire on September 30, 2017</span>. <br />
<br />
He had ample opportunities to address that. He could’ve reached out to President Obama and offered to extend it for several more years. He could have agreed to make it an entitlement, like Medicaid, whose funding does not have to be continually reauthorized. Obama, I guarantee you, would have leaped at the opportunity to permanently enshrine and fund a vital program that <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/9/16860802/chip-funding-expired-congress" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">gives health care to 9 million poor and middle-class kids</a>.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Ryan, if he were so passionate about CHIP, could have made its renewal a priority in 2017, under unified Republican control of government. He could have introduced a simple bill funding it for a few more years, or many more years, and brought it to a vote in the House</span>. Democrats would have helped it easily evade a filibuster in the Senate.</blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/19/16909460/paul-ryan-childrens-health-insurance-program-chip-shutdown-cynical" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Paul Ryan is lying to you about the Children’s Health Insurance Program - Vox</a></span><br />
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			<title><![CDATA[The "Freedom" Caucus gets behind Trump]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-2634.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2018 15:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[It's that <a href="http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-1549.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">murderous Freedom Caucus</a> again..<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">President Donald Trump has gotten a huge boost from a handful of conservative House members in his quest to counter special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. Many of those congressmen are members of the conservative Freedom Caucus.<br />
<br />
<br />
</span></span>Reed Galen, a Republican strategist who formerly served as Sen. John McCain's deputy campaign manager for his 2008 presidential bid, said there are a couple of reasons why conservatives have rallied behind Trump on this cause. Among them is that Trump "best represents" what their idea of government should be, and the members "probably really believe in the 'deep state' and black helicopters." <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">"These guys are political nihilists," he said. "They don't believe in government, they don't like and don't want to contribute to legislative progress." This allows them to work "on discrediting the state from their perch within it."</span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/freedom-caucus-fights-mueller-russia-investigation-for-trump-2018-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Freedom Caucus goes all out to fight for Trump against Mueller - Business Insider</a></span><br />
<br />
Undermining crucial institutions that are actually <a href="http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180111-how-can-you-measure-what-makes-a-country-great" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">underpinning democracy, freedom and economic growth</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[It's that <a href="http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-1549.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">murderous Freedom Caucus</a> again..<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">President Donald Trump has gotten a huge boost from a handful of conservative House members in his quest to counter special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. Many of those congressmen are members of the conservative Freedom Caucus.<br />
<br />
<br />
</span></span>Reed Galen, a Republican strategist who formerly served as Sen. John McCain's deputy campaign manager for his 2008 presidential bid, said there are a couple of reasons why conservatives have rallied behind Trump on this cause. Among them is that Trump "best represents" what their idea of government should be, and the members "probably really believe in the 'deep state' and black helicopters." <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">"These guys are political nihilists," he said. "They don't believe in government, they don't like and don't want to contribute to legislative progress." This allows them to work "on discrediting the state from their perch within it."</span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/freedom-caucus-fights-mueller-russia-investigation-for-trump-2018-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Freedom Caucus goes all out to fight for Trump against Mueller - Business Insider</a></span><br />
<br />
Undermining crucial institutions that are actually <a href="http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180111-how-can-you-measure-what-makes-a-country-great" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">underpinning democracy, freedom and economic growth</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Class warfare]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-1653.html</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Here is <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/opinion/republican-taxes-next-generation.html?partner=rss&amp;emc=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Krugman</a>:<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The other day, Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/us/politics/senate-tax-bill.html?_r=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">admitted to The New York Times</a> that he “misspoke” when he declared that his party’s tax plan wouldn’t raise taxes on any middle-class families. But he misspoke when he said “misspoke”: The proper term is “lied.” ... <br />
<br />
We’re still waiting for detailed analysis of the Senate bill, but the House bill doesn’t just raise taxes on many middle-class families: It selectively raises taxes on families with children. In fact, half — half! — of families with children will <a href="https://ernietedeschi.blogspot.com/2017/11/more-on-why-so-many-parents-lose-under.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">see a tax hike</a> once the bill is fully phased in. Suppose that a child from a working-class family decides ... to attend college, probably taking out a loan to help pay tuition. Well, guess what: Under the House bill, that interest would <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/business/house-tax-bill-deductions.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">no longer be deductible</a>, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">substantially raising the cost of college</span>. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">What if you’re working your way through school and your employer contributes toward your education expenses?</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The House bill would <a href="http://time.com/money/5007540/gop-tax-plan-tax-breaks-college-students/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">make that contribution</a> taxable income</span>. What if your parent is a university employee, and you get reduced tuition as a result? That tuition break <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/11/02/republican-tax-plan-seeks-to-shake-up-higher-education-tax-credits-deductions-and-benefits/?utm_term=.0a9b76915eaa" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">becomes taxable income</a>. So would tuition <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/7/16612288/gop-tax-bill-graduate-students" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">breaks for graduate students</a> who work as teaching or research assistants. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">So what we’re looking at here are a variety of measures that will close off opportunities for children who weren’t clever enough to choose wealthy parents</span>. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Meanwhile, funding for the Children’s Health Insurance Program, which covers more than eight million children, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/chip-childrens-health-insurance-program-congress.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">expired a month and a half ago</a>— and so far, Republicans have made no serious effort to restore it</span>. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This is surely the shape of things to come: If tax cuts pass, and the deficit explodes, the G.O.P. will suddenly decide that deficits matter again and will demand cuts in social programs, many of which benefit lower-income children</span>. <br />
<br />
So this isn’t just ordinary class warfare; it’s class warfare aimed at perpetuating inequality into the next generation. Taken together, the elements of both the House and the Senate bills amount to a more or less systematic attempt to lavish benefits on the children of the ultra-wealthy while making it harder for less fortunate young people to achieve upward social mobility. Or to put it differently, the tax legislation Republicans are trying to ram through Congress with indecent haste, without hearings or time for any kind of serious study, looks an awful lot like an attempt not simply to reinforce plutocracy, but to entrench a hereditary plutocracy.</blockquote>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/opinion/republican-taxes-next-generation.html?partner=rss&amp;emc=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Republican Class Warfare: The Next Generation, by Paul Krugman</a><br />
<br />
Consider also this:<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Abolishing the individual mandate, leading to 13M people without healthcare insurance, a 10% increase in premiums and increased cost of emergency rooms. Creating hundreds, perhaps thousands of avoidable deaths, increased medical debts and bankruptcies in the process.<br />
</li>
<li>Abolishing the estate tax (which starts at &#36;5M+ for individuals and &#36;10M+ for couples, so it's really not for the small businesses and farmers conservatives claim it is) perpetuating inherited wealth.<br />
</li>
</ul>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Here is <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/opinion/republican-taxes-next-generation.html?partner=rss&amp;emc=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Krugman</a>:<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The other day, Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/us/politics/senate-tax-bill.html?_r=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">admitted to The New York Times</a> that he “misspoke” when he declared that his party’s tax plan wouldn’t raise taxes on any middle-class families. But he misspoke when he said “misspoke”: The proper term is “lied.” ... <br />
<br />
We’re still waiting for detailed analysis of the Senate bill, but the House bill doesn’t just raise taxes on many middle-class families: It selectively raises taxes on families with children. In fact, half — half! — of families with children will <a href="https://ernietedeschi.blogspot.com/2017/11/more-on-why-so-many-parents-lose-under.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">see a tax hike</a> once the bill is fully phased in. Suppose that a child from a working-class family decides ... to attend college, probably taking out a loan to help pay tuition. Well, guess what: Under the House bill, that interest would <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/business/house-tax-bill-deductions.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">no longer be deductible</a>, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">substantially raising the cost of college</span>. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">What if you’re working your way through school and your employer contributes toward your education expenses?</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The House bill would <a href="http://time.com/money/5007540/gop-tax-plan-tax-breaks-college-students/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">make that contribution</a> taxable income</span>. What if your parent is a university employee, and you get reduced tuition as a result? That tuition break <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/11/02/republican-tax-plan-seeks-to-shake-up-higher-education-tax-credits-deductions-and-benefits/?utm_term=.0a9b76915eaa" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">becomes taxable income</a>. So would tuition <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/7/16612288/gop-tax-bill-graduate-students" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">breaks for graduate students</a> who work as teaching or research assistants. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">So what we’re looking at here are a variety of measures that will close off opportunities for children who weren’t clever enough to choose wealthy parents</span>. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Meanwhile, funding for the Children’s Health Insurance Program, which covers more than eight million children, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/chip-childrens-health-insurance-program-congress.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">expired a month and a half ago</a>— and so far, Republicans have made no serious effort to restore it</span>. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">This is surely the shape of things to come: If tax cuts pass, and the deficit explodes, the G.O.P. will suddenly decide that deficits matter again and will demand cuts in social programs, many of which benefit lower-income children</span>. <br />
<br />
So this isn’t just ordinary class warfare; it’s class warfare aimed at perpetuating inequality into the next generation. Taken together, the elements of both the House and the Senate bills amount to a more or less systematic attempt to lavish benefits on the children of the ultra-wealthy while making it harder for less fortunate young people to achieve upward social mobility. Or to put it differently, the tax legislation Republicans are trying to ram through Congress with indecent haste, without hearings or time for any kind of serious study, looks an awful lot like an attempt not simply to reinforce plutocracy, but to entrench a hereditary plutocracy.</blockquote>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/opinion/republican-taxes-next-generation.html?partner=rss&amp;emc=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Republican Class Warfare: The Next Generation, by Paul Krugman</a><br />
<br />
Consider also this:<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Abolishing the individual mandate, leading to 13M people without healthcare insurance, a 10% increase in premiums and increased cost of emergency rooms. Creating hundreds, perhaps thousands of avoidable deaths, increased medical debts and bankruptcies in the process.<br />
</li>
<li>Abolishing the estate tax (which starts at &#36;5M+ for individuals and &#36;10M+ for couples, so it's really not for the small businesses and farmers conservatives claim it is) perpetuating inherited wealth.<br />
</li>
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			<title><![CDATA[Nasty President]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-1649.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2017 23:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[There are so many stories to illustrate the sheer nastiness of Trump (ridiculing a handicapped journalist, going after gold star families, etc. etc.), but we have to start somewhere. <br />
<br />
How about this one:<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">President Donald Trump tweeted Friday that the decision allowing Bowe Bergdahl not to serve prison time is a "complete and total disgrace."</span> He tweeted, "The decision on Sergeant Bergdahl is a complete and total disgrace to our Country and to our Military."  The Army soldier, who the Taliban held for five years after he deserted his Afghanistan outpost, pleaded guilty last month to the charges. Bergdahl was released in May 2014 in a controversial exchange for five Guantanamo Bay detainees. Trump has never been a fan of Bergdahl -- <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">in March 2017, he called Bergdahl a "dirty, rotten traitor."</span></span></span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/03/politics/donald-trump-bowe-bergdahl-twitter/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Trump on Bergdahl decision: 'Complete and total disgrace' - CNNPolitics</a></span><br />
<br />
A few pointers:<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Trump has never served in the military.<br />
</li>
<li>Serving in the military really isn't for everyone, especially in a foreign war situation, there are records from WOI that more than half the soldiers in the trenches could not even load their rifles anymore when under stress.<br />
</li>
<li>War obviously took a toll on Bergdahl's nerves, stuff like that happens, civilians like us can't possibly imagine what it's like. It's for a reason that so many veteran's come back with all sorts of trauma.<br />
</li>
<li>Trump even <a href="https://www.google.com.ar/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=0ahUKEwjFoPT1w6PXAhUEQ5AKHR4TD_UQqOcBCCYwAA&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F11%2F03%2Fus%2Fbowe-bergdahl-sentence.html&amp;usg=AOvVaw02zteiZ94lNjj1vT4vNVp3" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">urged for the death penalty for Bergdahl</a> during the campaign.<br />
</li>
<li>That has been a mitigating circumstance during the trial, according to the judge, but Trump isn't phased by this at all, achieving exactly the opposite what he claims. His game is playing politics at the expense of people. Very nasty indeed.<br />
</li>
<li>Consider also that Bergdahl has been a captive of the Taliban for five years and has been tortured. We can't even begin to imagine what that means.<br />
</li>
<li>Consider also that he then comes back to a country where there are many, like Trump, out for his blood. Welcome home, Bowe..<br />
</li>
<li>Consider also that he was dishonorably discharged, he has to remake his career and life.<br />
</li>
</ul>
This guy has been through more than enough, leave him alone, have a semblance of understanding and empathy (completely lacking in Trump, of course..)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[There are so many stories to illustrate the sheer nastiness of Trump (ridiculing a handicapped journalist, going after gold star families, etc. etc.), but we have to start somewhere. <br />
<br />
How about this one:<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">President Donald Trump tweeted Friday that the decision allowing Bowe Bergdahl not to serve prison time is a "complete and total disgrace."</span> He tweeted, "The decision on Sergeant Bergdahl is a complete and total disgrace to our Country and to our Military."  The Army soldier, who the Taliban held for five years after he deserted his Afghanistan outpost, pleaded guilty last month to the charges. Bergdahl was released in May 2014 in a controversial exchange for five Guantanamo Bay detainees. Trump has never been a fan of Bergdahl -- <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">in March 2017, he called Bergdahl a "dirty, rotten traitor."</span></span></span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/03/politics/donald-trump-bowe-bergdahl-twitter/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Trump on Bergdahl decision: 'Complete and total disgrace' - CNNPolitics</a></span><br />
<br />
A few pointers:<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Trump has never served in the military.<br />
</li>
<li>Serving in the military really isn't for everyone, especially in a foreign war situation, there are records from WOI that more than half the soldiers in the trenches could not even load their rifles anymore when under stress.<br />
</li>
<li>War obviously took a toll on Bergdahl's nerves, stuff like that happens, civilians like us can't possibly imagine what it's like. It's for a reason that so many veteran's come back with all sorts of trauma.<br />
</li>
<li>Trump even <a href="https://www.google.com.ar/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=0ahUKEwjFoPT1w6PXAhUEQ5AKHR4TD_UQqOcBCCYwAA&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F11%2F03%2Fus%2Fbowe-bergdahl-sentence.html&amp;usg=AOvVaw02zteiZ94lNjj1vT4vNVp3" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">urged for the death penalty for Bergdahl</a> during the campaign.<br />
</li>
<li>That has been a mitigating circumstance during the trial, according to the judge, but Trump isn't phased by this at all, achieving exactly the opposite what he claims. His game is playing politics at the expense of people. Very nasty indeed.<br />
</li>
<li>Consider also that Bergdahl has been a captive of the Taliban for five years and has been tortured. We can't even begin to imagine what that means.<br />
</li>
<li>Consider also that he then comes back to a country where there are many, like Trump, out for his blood. Welcome home, Bowe..<br />
</li>
<li>Consider also that he was dishonorably discharged, he has to remake his career and life.<br />
</li>
</ul>
This guy has been through more than enough, leave him alone, have a semblance of understanding and empathy (completely lacking in Trump, of course..)]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The party of climate denial]]></title>
			<link>http://rightwingers.org/forums/thread-1626.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2017 03:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">In the last five minutes of Sen. Cory Gardner’s (R-Colo.) town hall on Tuesday morning, an unlikely voice stepped up to the microphone. A young teen girl, fighting for the courage to speak, urged the senator to start a climate solutions caucus in the Senate. “<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">If all you need is more information, I can come visit the energy committee and do a PowerPoint for you</span>,” she said.  She wasn’t the first to see a public forum as the perfect chance to pressure politicians to act on climate change. During several recent town halls, there’s been a trend of young women seizing the opportunity to challenge their leaders</span></span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/media/2017/08/teenagers-keep-going-to-town-halls-and-owning-republicans-and-its-amazing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Teenagers Keep Going to Town Halls and Owning Republicans and It’s Amazing – Mother Jones</a></span><br />
<br />
Terrific strategy. And sometimes these people need a little reminder..<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Back in late August 2015, a teen reminded Christie of a statement he made earlier in the month that exhaling carbon dioxide contributes to climate change. Christie denied ever saying that and reprimanded her</span>: “I know you really care about this subject, but you know what? The first thing you need to do is not be wrong and not quote me incorrectly.” <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The video above, made by NextGen Climate-New Hampshire, proves that she was right and he did, in fact, say the following statement on August 4</span>: The climate’s been changing, forever. And it will always continue to change. Does human activity contribute to it? Of course it does. We all contribute to it, in one way or another. By breathing we contribute to it. Christie, who has said he doesn’t think Americans should prioritize climate change, never responded to the video.</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="http://www.motherjones.com/media/2017/08/teenagers-keep-going-to-town-halls-and-owning-republicans-and-its-amazing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Teenagers Keep Going to Town Halls and Owning Republicans and It’s Amazing – Mother Jones</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">In the last five minutes of Sen. Cory Gardner’s (R-Colo.) town hall on Tuesday morning, an unlikely voice stepped up to the microphone. A young teen girl, fighting for the courage to speak, urged the senator to start a climate solutions caucus in the Senate. “<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">If all you need is more information, I can come visit the energy committee and do a PowerPoint for you</span>,” she said.  She wasn’t the first to see a public forum as the perfect chance to pressure politicians to act on climate change. During several recent town halls, there’s been a trend of young women seizing the opportunity to challenge their leaders</span></span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/media/2017/08/teenagers-keep-going-to-town-halls-and-owning-republicans-and-its-amazing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Teenagers Keep Going to Town Halls and Owning Republicans and It’s Amazing – Mother Jones</a></span><br />
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Terrific strategy. And sometimes these people need a little reminder..<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Back in late August 2015, a teen reminded Christie of a statement he made earlier in the month that exhaling carbon dioxide contributes to climate change. Christie denied ever saying that and reprimanded her</span>: “I know you really care about this subject, but you know what? The first thing you need to do is not be wrong and not quote me incorrectly.” <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The video above, made by NextGen Climate-New Hampshire, proves that she was right and he did, in fact, say the following statement on August 4</span>: The climate’s been changing, forever. And it will always continue to change. Does human activity contribute to it? Of course it does. We all contribute to it, in one way or another. By breathing we contribute to it. Christie, who has said he doesn’t think Americans should prioritize climate change, never responded to the video.</span></span></blockquote>
<a href="http://www.motherjones.com/media/2017/08/teenagers-keep-going-to-town-halls-and-owning-republicans-and-its-amazing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Teenagers Keep Going to Town Halls and Owning Republicans and It’s Amazing – Mother Jones</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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