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Why are tax cuts an article of faith? - Admin - 02-25-2016 Today’s head-scratcher: Why, like the moth to the flame, are Republican candidates so drawn to supply-side tax cuts? February 23rd, 2016 at 9:21 am Let me paraphrase that title a bit: why are they so forthcoming about it in the midst of an anti-establishment election? Read this useful NYT review of the depth of the R candidates tax-cut proposals. Quote:The tax plans of the Republican presidential candidates would cut federal revenues as much as $12 trillion over a decade, a post-World War II record eclipsing the deep tax cuts of George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan and John F. Kennedy. And they would come just as America faces the costs of its aging baby-boom generation. Tax expert Bill Gale provides an efficient summary of the problems with this: Quote:“One, they are enormous tax cuts relative to anything we’ve done in the past. Two, the candidates don’t specify how they’re going to pay for these tax cuts. And three, they are hugely regressive” — that is, the higher a person’s income, the bigger the tax cuts that taxpayer would receive, both in dollars and as a percentage of income. I’ve disparaged the economics of trickle down ad nauseam, most recently, yesterday: Quote:[trickle-down theory is based on] increasing growth by cutting taxes on rich people based on the faith that they’ll create more economic activity (and create it here, not abroad). To put it mildly, that faith is misplaced. You know what happens when you cut taxes on the rich? They get richer. But I’m not here today to talk economics or fiscal policy. I’m having a bit of trouble wrapping my head around the politics of all this. Consider these points: –A very similar trickle-down agenda worked badly for Romney/Ryan, allowing the opposition to portray their candidacy as out-of-touch plutocrats, unconcerned about middle-class income stagnation and inequality. –In this election, it seems particularly obvious that time-worn, establishment-conservative proposals like big tax cuts for the wealthy are out of tune with the Republican primary electorate. A non-trivial core of Republican primary voters appear to be (or worry about becoming) downwardly mobile middle-class people who might not react favorably to zeroing out taxes on investment income, as Marco Rubio proposes. –Also, in this election, facts and coherent policy positions are not exactly what the conservative primary base appears to be clamoring for. If I’m roughly right, why would a candidate feel compelled to lay out the type of proposals described in the NYT piece? Even if that’s where you ultimately want to go, why not, especially if you’re the current front-runner, just say, “I’ve got an awesome tax plan that’s gonna work great!”? When they ask you, “what is it?,” you just say “it’s got something for everyone!” which is not completely false as these plans tend to cut federal income taxes for everyone who pays them, though far more for those at the top. (Although, if they really did try to offset the lost revenue with spending cuts, that would likely be at the expense of the least well-off, as Gale suggests.) And yet, Trump, who claims to want to tax the rich, delivers 35% of the benefits of his proposed cuts to the top 1% (an e.g. of that bit about facts not mattering so much). His plan also loses the most revenue among those that have been scored so far. One argument I often hear is that “they do this to signal their rich donors that they get it; they understand the real deal and recognize the pay-to-play standard in today’s presidential politics.” Maybe, but I don’t really buy it. Unless their donors are all checked out, they must recognize that the candidate can’t help them if they can’t get elected. And Trump doesn’t need their money anyway. Perhaps it’s all they’ve got. I’m more prone to believe this. Jimmy Pethokoukis, who also ponders these questions from the other side of the aisle, reminds us of Robert Novak’s famous line: “God put the Republican Party on earth to cut taxes. If they don’t do that, they have no useful function.” Or, maybe it’s just a dog whistle for starving the Treasury of revenues and reducing the size of government, although that’s not how this sort of thing usually works out (instead, you end up with larger deficits; note that none of the candidates have actually articulated offsetting spending cuts). But again, you can’t cut taxes if you can’t win. I’m not the political analyst here and you’re within your rights to point out that these trickle-down plans don’t seem to be hurting (or, for that matter, helping) any of the candidates in the primary. It’s more like they’re just checking a box. And I guess that’s kind of puzzling to me in a year when I think the electorate is less interested in that sort of thing if not downright likely to be pissed off about it. RE: Why are tax cuts an article of faith? - stpioc - 08-02-2016 Jonathan Chait shows in The New York Times how fanatical the Republican opposition even to moderate tax increases really is, even if these just amounted to closing loopholes and getting savings in Medicare and Social security in return: Quote:For more than 25 years, the centerpiece of Republican doctrine has been the necessity of reducing taxes for upper-income Americans and an absolute opposition to higher tax revenue in any form. During President Obama’s first term, anti-deficit activists came up with a plan that they hoped would induce Republicans to abandon their fanatical opposition to higher tax revenue. First, they would get Democrats to support cuts to Social Security and Medicare as part of the trade. And second, the higher revenue would come not in the form of tax-rate increases but instead by reducing loopholes and expenditures in the tax code. In theory, one could reduce enough deductions that the tax code could raise more revenue while still reducing tax rates.Why ‘Fix the Debt’ Just Can’t Quit Paul Ryan The curious thing is, the rich have done extremely well the last 35 years or so. What economic benefits will more tax cuts bring? RE: Why are tax cuts an article of faith? - stpioc - 08-13-2016 Here is Bruce Bartlett, the guy who actually designed the Reagan tax cuts: Quote:It is G.O.P. dogma that the Reagan tax cut set off an economic boom. Every Republican presidential nominee since the 1980s has promised big tax cuts and another economic surge. Tax increases, Republicans believe, are the kiss of death for the economy.Trump’s Misguided Embrace of Tax Cuts - The New York Times Who is Bruce Bartlett? Quote:I know something about the Reagan tax cut. In 1977, while working for Representative Jack Kemp, Republican of New York, I drafted the Kemp-Roth tax bill, which Reagan sent to Congress in early 1981. The law cut statutory tax rates by about 25 percent across the board.Trump’s Misguided Embrace of Tax Cuts - The New York Times RE: Why are tax cuts an article of faith? - Admin - 09-07-2022 Quote:In the face of failing public services, her tax cuts – she told Laura Kuenssberg it was “fair” to take billions from the public purse to reward the richest with £1,800 and the poorest with just £7.66 – will look perverse, and grotesquely unjust. That kind of extremism will shock most people in a country already Europe’s most unequal (bar Bulgaria). Politically, her tax cuts will contrast badly with the shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves’s pledge to abolish billions in tax relief for the rich. Nor does cutting tax grow the economy: Ben Zaranko of the Institute for Fiscal Studies points out to me how Europe’s highest taxing countries have the strongest growth.No vision, no charisma, no real plan: Labour has nothing to fear from Liz Truss | Polly Toynbee | The Guardian RE: Why are tax cuts an article of faith? - Admin - 09-29-2022 Quote:Last year, Mr. Gale and a colleague, Claire Haldeman, published a study on the effects of Mr. Trump’s tax cuts up until the start of the pandemic recession. They looked for supply-side effects — whether the cuts increased investment incentives and other means of stimulating sustained economic growth — and found little evidence of such results. Instead, they found that the cuts did little to promote job growth or investment outside the oil and gas sector, which is highly correlated with the global price of fossil fuels. And they found that the cuts significantly reduced federal tax revenues, contrary to Republicans’ promises that the cuts would pay for themselves by inciting additional economic growth.Britain’s Gamble on Tax Cuts has Economists Warning of Past Mistakes
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