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By definition, less government is always better - stpioc - 04-06-2016 Quote:One reason for this is that, whereas liberalism tries to apply the conclusions of science and academia to public policy, conservatism rejects those conclusions in favor of an a priori belief that more government is always wrong. One contributor, the not notably hinged commentator Glenn Beck, assails Trump for supporting the stimulus, the auto bailouts, and the bank bailouts — three measures that most economists believe helped prevent a much deeper recession. Movement conservatism rejects the conclusions of wide swaths of economists, social scientists, the entire field of climate science … of course it is liable to attract anti-intellectual candidates.How Conservatism Created Donald Trump For instance, the objection to climate science is either based on donor money or the belief that it necessitates public intervention, probably a combination of both. It isn't necessarily so popular with their own electorate though: Quote:A second problem is that conservative doctrine is unpopular with the public as well. The majority may often support generalized anti-government sentiment, but it does not follow those generalities through to their specific implications. During George W. Bush’s first term, the proposition that Medicare ought to add prescription-drug coverage drew the support of 90 percent of the public. Conservatives did not believe this — some of them grudgingly accepted the Bush administration’s political need to cater to popular sentiment, while others castigated Bush as a traitor to conservatism for doing so.How Conservatism Created Donald Trump RE: By definition, less government is always better - stpioc - 04-14-2016 Quote:This is why big government is bad. Eventually it accumulates so much economic power that it inevitably starts throwing its weight around in a manner that punishes dissent.New Balance Claims Obama Administration Used Contracts to Stifle Policy Objections Nonsense. Many third world countries have fairly small governments, but they throw their weight around quite a bit more. RE: By definition, less government is always better - stpioc - 04-28-2016 The anti-government ideology also gets a little help from the fact that many people have been taught a little economics. But a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.. Quote:So why do many people think of economics as a bastion of libertarianism? Part of it might be due to undergraduate education. Most introductory college econ courses teach a very simple theory of supply and demand in which free markets make the whole world more efficient. Econ 101 courses tend to gloss over more difficult topics, such as externalities, asymmetric information and welfare economics, which often justify government intervention. The free-market stuff is simple and easy, while the market failures, though often important in the real world, are harder to understand. This can give college kids a simplistic, fun, but fundamentally wrong way of thinking about the economy, which I call “101ism.”Economists Are Warming to Government Intervention - Bloomberg View RE: By definition, less government is always better - stpioc - 08-09-2016 As it happens, less government isn't always better. In the figure below (which comes from an article by Jarred Bernstein) rubbishes the notion that smaller government is always better. In fact the correlation clearly goes the other way, although that doesn't mean it's causation, but it's enough to dispel the notion that we can expect a big (or any) boost from cutting taxes and reducing the size of the public sector. We wouldn't exclude the possibility that this could help in some cases, with targeted measures, but not as a general fix all policy.
RE: By definition, less government is always better - stpioc - 08-21-2016 Quote:In the century and a half since then, government expenditures as a share of GDP have risen sharply in these countries. Yet they didn’t experience a slowdown in their longrun economic growth rates. The fact that economic growth has been so stable over this lengthy period, despite huge increases in the size of government, suggests that government size probably has had little or no impact on growth.What’s slowing growth? Sorry, conservatives: It’s not the size of governments - The Washington Post RE: By definition, less government is always better - Admin - 09-05-2016 Here is the Daily Signal Quote:How did America’s political and economic system change from limited government and capitalism early in our history, to the unlimited government and welfare statism of today? From about 1880 to the end of World War I, America went through a period of radical change. New political and economic principles were introduced by a group of academics, activists, and politicians known as progressives. Progressives proposed replacing the system of limited government, natural rights, and capitalism bequeathed to us by the Founders, with an unlimited government that closely regulates the economy and redistributes income.How a Progressive Educator Helped Create Big Government Actually, a better question would be: when was America's economy working for everyone? Indeed. Exactly in the period that the US economy benefited from the reforms of the progressives and the taming of financial markets of the New Deal. The golden era 1950-1980. When did it all start to fall apart? ![]() ![]() Indeed, from the 1980s onwards, the economy suffered from the right-wing counteroffensive, wages stagnated, the American Dream went up in smoke, and the gains went almost exclusively to the top, which got huge tax breaks as well. And part of the right now blames this all on "stupid trade deals." There isn't really much evidence that trade is responsible for most of the middle class stagnation, as other countries which are at least as open to trade, if not more so didn't experience anywhere near the same wage stagnation, nor the inexorable rise in inequality nor are they seeing decreasing white middle class life expectancy. RE: By definition, less government is always better - stpioc - 09-15-2016 No, less government isn't always better by definition. Take education, for instance, those spiraling higher tuition fees. Where do they come from... Quote:The twin issues of rising tuition and increasing student debt have become major national concerns in the past few years, as students, policymakers, and the media have all recognized the threat that the increasing unaffordability of a college education poses to our country’s future economic growth. But there has been less alarm over the causes of rising tuition in these circles, and when there is, such coverage unfortunately often focuses on minor contributors to rising costs, such as increased administrative costs and spending on dorms and other amenities.The Real Cause of Rising Tuition at Public Colleges? State Funding Cuts. | Demos RE: By definition, less government is always better - stpioc - 09-15-2016 And of course, government has nothing to do with this either.. Quote:Seoul, Korea is the happiest city in the world because it is wealthy, healthy, relatively crime-free, and looks after its citizens. That is according to a new report by design and consultancy firm Arcadis, which assesses and then ranks 100 major cities in the world across a few indexes. In its "people sub-index" it assesses:Arcadis city ranking: Happiest city in the world, economically, health-wise, social progress - Business Insider To compare, London.. Quote:Looking after its citizens across income equality, housing, and infrastructure does not just keep the population happy, it also secures more competitiveness longevity. This is what London is suffering from. In the same report, while London ranked fifth in its list of wealthy and economically healthy cities, it comes 37 in its people sub-index. This is because of severe social inequality, crime, lack of housing and other major issues that pre-date the EU referendum on June 23. Arcadis warns that this will threaten London's ability to remain competitive in the future against other huge financial centres across the globe.. RE: By definition, less government is always better - stpioc - 09-17-2016 Trump's penny plan is targeting non-defense public spending that has already been severely cut: Quote:Tucked into the details of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s revamped tax and economic package is something that sounds benign: the “Penny Plan.”Trump’s plan to destroy science, education, and veterans’ health care RE: By definition, less government is always better - stpioc - 02-27-2017 Well on the way to sort off eliminating government, all in the name of tax cuts for the rich, increased defense spending and an ideology in which government is always the problem, never the solution: Quote:President Trump is expected to release his outline for federal government spending on Monday, and according to multiple news outlets, he will increase defense funding by $54 billion while leaving Social Security and Medicare as is.Trump’s preliminary budget makes devastating cuts to most of the government |