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  Trump coup
Posted by: Admin - 07-29-2021, 01:57 AM - Forum: Trump - Replies (4)

Quote:GOP Rep. Andrew Clyde (Ga.) defended his description of rioters walking through the Capitol on Jan. 6 appearing to look like a “normal tourist visit” during a committee meeting on Tuesday. The heated exchange occurred hours after four police officers appeared before the select committee probing the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, offering harrowing testimony that recounted scenes of chaos, violence and destruction from the insurrection.
GOP Rep. Clyde defends 'normal tourist visit' comparison for Jan. 6 | TheHill
  • Tourist visit, that's clearly not how is colleague Mel Brooks experienced it:
Quote:Then, to prove his point about preparation, he revealed a new detail to me: that because of a tip he’d received about potential violence, he’d been wearing body armor at the very same Ellipse speech in which he encouraged rally attendees to “start taking down names and kicking ass.” “I was warned on Monday that there might be risks associated with the next few days,” he said. “And as a consequence of those warnings, I did not go to my condo. Instead, I slept on the floor of my office. And when I gave my speech at the Ellipse, I was wearing body armor. “That’s why I was wearing that nice little windbreaker,” he told me with a grin. “To cover up the body armor.” He didn’t say who warned him, or what the “risk” was that he’d been warned about.
Mo Brooks wore body armor to Jan. 6 rally.

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  Aren't markets always right?
Posted by: Admin - 03-14-2021, 03:32 AM - Forum: "Government is always the problem" - No Replies

Quote:NEIL CAVUTO (HOST): Wall Street doesn't seem to care whether it's wasteful spending or not. Stimulus is stimulus, money is money. They seem to embrace it. There's got to be a point at which they say, "Well, what are we embracing here?" CHARLES PAYNE (GUEST): I don't know what that point is, Neil. Honestly, I don't.  CAVUTO: Yeah. PAYNE: Wall Street is so short-sighted. They just want the -- they just want the machine to keep going. And by the way, whenever we do hit that pivotal moment, I think Wall Street believes that -- that they will be the ones somehow bailed out at the expense of everyone else. So Wall Street does not have any sort of fiscal discipline at all with respect to any of this. Keep the money printing, you see what the market's doing. It's a great party as far as they're concerned and they don't ever want it to stop.
Fox hosts attack the stock market for going up after passage of COVID relief | Media Matters for America
  • Except when they go up in reaction to something conservatives loath..
  • They went up during most of Obama's presidency as well, how could that be, wasn't he bringing socialism to the US?

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  Obstruction as a strategy
Posted by: Admin - 10-15-2020, 04:26 PM - Forum: The Nasty Party - No Replies

Quote:As the Washington Post's Greg Sargent points out, McConnell has offered up the bare minimum of assistance to give vulnerable Republicans something to point to, to tell voters that they've done a thing and maybe, maybe save his majority. But he's got his poison pill that he knows Democrats will not accept: absolving businesses from any liability for exposing their workers to infection with COVID-19. It's seemed for months that McConnell didn't want a deal and now, well, Republican operative confirms it, and says point blank it's about fighting Biden next year.

A GOP strategist who has been consulting on Senate campaigns told Bloomberg that "Republicans have been carefully laying the groundwork to restrain a Biden administration on federal spending and the budget deficit by talking up concerns about the price tag for another round of virus relief." A number of hard-core Republicans have been using the deficit peacock's argument against saving the nation for months, to be clear. This isn't new—it's what Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and Ron Johnson have been arguing since early summer. But now it's hardened into how they'll deal with a Biden administration starting in January. "The thinking, the strategist said, is that it would be very hard politically to agree on spending trillions more now and then in January suddenly embrace fiscal restraint."
McConnell has written off Trump, it's now all about preemptively crippling then Biden administration - Alternet.org
  • Making Obama a one-time President as the overriding goal in 2008
  • Against fiscal stimulus, bailing out the car manufacturers and railing against the Fed for lose policies during Obama's term, then reversing 180 degrees on these positions when Trump got elected
  • Now once more obstruction is their only game trying to make Biden fail even if it takes the economy with them.

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  Voters refuse to believe how extreme Republicans are
Posted by: Admin - 10-08-2020, 11:30 PM - Forum: Voodoo Economics - No Replies

Quote:A month later the House narrowly passed a bill that even The Wall Street Journal admitted ''mainly padded corporate bottom lines.'' It was so extreme that when political consultants tried to get reactions from voter focus groups, the voters refused to believe that they were describing the bill accurately. Mr. Bush, according to Ari Fleischer, was ''very pleased'' with the bill.
Opinion | A No-Win Outcome - The New York Times

Quote:Burton and his colleagues spent the early months of 2012 trying out the pitch that Romney was the most far-right presidential candidate since Barry Goldwater. It fell flat. The public did not view Romney as an extremist. For example, when Priorities informed a focus group that Romney supported the Ryan budget plan — and thus championed “ending Medicare as we know it” — while also advocating tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, the respondents simply refused to believe any politician would do such a thing. What became clear was that voters had almost no sense of Obama’s opponent...

By contrast, Trump’s opposition to raising the minimum wage is even less popular than his overall rating. A solid 64 percent of the public says it favors higher taxes on the rich. And there’s overwhelming public support for stricter air pollution rulesBut the fact that the minimum wage, higher taxes for the wealthy, the stringency of clean air rules, and a dozen other “normal” policy issues are on the ballot is rarely a focus of media coverage. To the extent that voters hear about these issues, it tends to come from Democrats’ ads where, as we have seen, it is somewhat challenging to get voters to believe that anyone could seriously be running on GOP economics.
Trump wants to end Obamacare. He has no plan to ensure preexisting conditions are covered. - Vox
  • Republican economic policies are so unpopular, voters simply refuse to believe these are indeed their policies

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  Trump's immigration policies
Posted by: Admin - 10-07-2020, 02:35 AM - Forum: Trump - Replies (3)

Quote:The five U.S. attorneys along the border with Mexico, including three appointed by President Trump, recoiled in May 2018 against an order to prosecute all undocumented immigrants even if it meant separating children from their parents. They told top Justice Department officials they were “deeply concerned” about the children’s welfare.

But the attorney general at the time, Jeff Sessions, made it clear what Mr. Trump wanted on a conference call later that afternoon, according to a two-year inquiry by the Justice Department’s inspector general into Mr. Trump’s “zero tolerance” family separation policy.

We need to take away children,” Mr. Sessions told the prosecutors, according to participants’ notes. One added in shorthand: “If care about kids, don’t bring them in. Won’t give amnesty to people with kids.”

Rod J. Rosenstein, then the deputy attorney general, went even further in a second call about a week later, telling the five prosecutors that it did not matter how young the children were. He said that government lawyers should not have refused to prosecute two cases simply because the children were barely more than infants.

“Those two cases should not have been declined,” John Bash, the departing U.S. attorney in western Texas, wrote to his staff immediately after the call. Mr. Rosenstein “instructed that, per the A.G.’s policy, we should NOT be categorically declining immigration prosecutions of adults in family units because of the age of a child.”

The Justice Department’s top officials were “a driving force” behind the policy that spurred the separation of thousands of families, many of them fleeing violence in Central America and seeking asylum in the United States, before Mr. Trump abandoned it amid global outrage, according to a draft report of the results of the investigation by Michael E. Horowitz, the department’s inspector general.

The separation of migrant children from their parents, sometimes for months, was at the heart of the Trump administration’s assault on immigration. But the fierce backlash when the administration struggled to reunite the children turned it into one of the biggest policy debacles of the president’s term.
‘We Need to Take Away Children,’ Jeff Sessions Said - The New York Times

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  Mail ballots rigging
Posted by: Admin - 10-04-2020, 06:19 PM - Forum: Campaign funding - Replies (1)

Quote:"Where is the river?" the reporter asked.   Ms McEnany, rather than answering the question, launched into a defensive tirade accusing the reporter of "missing the forest for the trees" and accusing him and others of lacking "journalistic curiosity."   "The other day [Mr Trump] said 'they found a lot of ballots in a river.' Who is they?" the reporter asked. "Who is 'they,' that found those ballots, and where is this river, anywhere in this country?"  McEnany claimed the "local authorities" were the ones who found the ballots in a ditch in Wisconsin. The reporter asked if that meant that Mr Trump misspoke, which McEnany denied. Then the reporter read Mr Trump's quote back to her, in which he claimed ballots were dumped in rivers and creeks.  At that point, Ms McEnany accused him of being shortsighted.
White House can't identify mystery river where Trump claims ballots were dumped | The Independent

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  Cutting US Post
Posted by: Admin - 08-24-2020, 05:39 PM - Forum: Trump - Replies (1)

Quote:When I worked as a rural mail carrier in the hills of southeastern Kentucky in the early 2000s, my route snaked along the most mountainous parts of the county. I forded creeks and climbed steep dirt roads. Sometimes I’d have to drive for five miles to get to the next house. I delivered everything, including cages full of baby chickens and new sets of tires. I saw the joy that a parcel of books, clothing, or music brought to people. For so many on my route, the United States Postal Service was a lifeline, the way they got their medicine, checks, and much more.

Now Americans all over the country are reporting delays in sending and receiving mail, as Louis DeJoy, the new postmaster general, cuts back on overtime and decommissions mail-sorting machines and collection boxes. During Senate hearings with DeJoy yesterday, Rand Paul, Kentucky’s senator, declared that people living “20 miles down a dirt road” shouldn’t get service more than twice a week, and pushed for fewer postal jobs. He should say that to the people I know whose lives and livelihoods depend on the mail..
Trump Shows How Little He Cares for His Most Fervent Defenders - The Atlantic

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  The Trump economy
Posted by: Admin - 06-22-2020, 04:04 AM - Forum: Trump - No Replies

Quote:But Trump, Firey stresses, is greatly exaggerating the role he played in the country’s economic recovery from the Great Recession. And the Bulwark contributor makes his point not by quoting a liberal economist such as Paul Krugman or Robert Reich, but by noting what economist Pierre Lemieux had to say in Regulation — the policy journal of the Cato Institute, a right-wing libertarian think tank. U.S. unemployment, Firey notes, “was nearing historic lows in 2019, a remarkable change from the 10% it reached in October 2009, four months after the end of the Great Recession. From that point in October 2009, the unemployment rate declined steadily, first under the final seven years of the Obama Administration — falling to 4.7% in December 2016 — and then falling to 3.5% under Trump in late 2019.” 

Firey’s article is an example of a piece that was written for a right-wing website and draws on analysis for a right-wing libertarian think tank to reach its conclusion. Another thing Lemieux’s analysis shows, according to Firey, is that Trump has increased the United States’ federal deficit from what it was under Obama. “The data show that the economy more or less followed the same course in the first three years of Trump’s administration that it did over the last seven years of the Obama Administration,” Firey asserts. “Second, Trump’s administration rang up trillions of dollars in new government debt even before it began spending to fight the effects of COVID-19. That’s his actual record. He should own it.”
Trump’s claims on the US economy are wildly exaggerated: conservative – Alternet.org

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  The protests against police brutality
Posted by: Admin - 06-15-2020, 03:10 PM - Forum: Trump - No Replies

Quote:Top defense officials and members of local law enforcement are casting doubt on official statements made by the White House defending a decision for the U.S. Park Police to remove protesters from Lafayette Park prior to the president's walk to St. John's Episcopal Church. In interviews with The Washington Post, numerous named and unnamed officials contended that a decision to move a police perimeter by one block, which resulted in law enforcement deploying tear gas and physically chasing protesters from the park, was not made long in advance, as the White House previously contended. Washington, D.C., Police Chief Peter Newsham told the Post that his agency only learned of the decision to clear protesters from the park "minutes" before the confrontation occurred and publicly questioned the legality of the operation. U.S. Park Police led the operation. 

“We heard that there was going to be an unscheduled presidential movement,” Newsham said. “Just a few minutes later, our teams on the ground learned [chemical] munitions were going to be used. The munitions were deployed minutes later.” “I think we need a thorough investigation about what occurred there. Why was the crowd cleared? Who did it? Was it legal? We need to answer these questions,” Newsham continued. “I think we need to get all the details to see if this was lawful.” The head of the U.S. National Guard, Gen. Joseph Lengyel, added that he "never" heard plans that National Guard service members would be used to remove protesters from the park, adding that he was shocked to see the images on TV. “I never heard any plan, ever, that police or National Guard were going to push people out of Lafayette Square,” said the general. Gregory Monahan, acting chief of the Park Police, told the Post that the perimeter move was based on specific violence by protesters but did not elaborate.
Officials undercut Trump administration's Lafayette Square claims: Washington Post | TheHill

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Posted by: Admin - 05-16-2020, 07:27 PM - Forum: US Politics - No Replies

Quote:It’s interesting to see how thorough the PBS NewsHour reporters were in trying to assess Tara Reade’s allegations against Joe Biden. They identified and “tried to contact nearly 200 former staffers.” They ultimately interviewed 74 people, including 62 women, who worked for Biden over the years. Some were mere interns, others system administrators, and some were senior aides. Their experience spanned from his first run for Senate in 1972 all the way to his time as vice-president. Twenty of them worked for Biden in the early 1990s, at the same time as Reade. No one corroborated her primary accusation or offered anything that could reasonably be described as supporting information.
PBS finds no support for Tara Reade’s accusations – Alternet.org

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